evan: ...in the Free Software world many of us think that they're different.
...in the Free Software world many of us think that they're different.
View Articleevan: I just don't think it's helpful for GPL enforcement in general if it's...
I just don't think it's helpful for GPL enforcement in general if it's seen as a sneaky trick to retaliate against a patent troll.
View Articlebkuhn: @evan, I'm don't agree it makes them see equiv. The real question is:...
@evan, I'm don't agree it makes them see equiv. The real question is: would !RedHat enforce !GPL if not for #swpats suit & if not, why not?
View Articleevan: I think you've got a bad perspective; It looks like a dirty trick.
I think you've got a bad perspective; It looks like a dirty trick.
View Articlekevingranade: @evan that would be because it is. © is a weapon that GPL...
@evan that would be because it is. © is a weapon that GPL attempts to subvert for its cause, but it's still a weapon.
View Articlebkuhn: @evan, I see why you think so. *But* like I said in my blog update:...
@evan, I see why you think so. *But* like I said in my blog update: the proof will be if !RedHat fights for !GPL compliance fully.
View Articlebkuhn: @evan, I don't want to judge prematurely. *Even if* !RedHat only...
@evan, I don't want to judge prematurely. *Even if* !RedHat only enforced !GPL due to #swpats lawsuit, they can still do good here anyway.
View Articlebkuhn: @evan, IMO we need careful discernment. You're probably right about...
@evan, IMO we need careful discernment. You're probably right about common *perception*, but I'm concerned about morality, not perception.
View Articlebkuhn: @evan,Not sure which cognitive bias "I'm usually right"...
@evan,Not sure which cognitive bias "I'm usually right" shows:self-serving bias? confirmation bias? Is dent really:"Haha, only serious"?
View Articlebkuhn: @evan, since we're talking cognitive biases, I definitely have "curse...
@evan, since we're talking cognitive biases, I definitely have "curse of knowledge" regarding !GPL enforcement: http://ur1.ca/abxth
View Articleevan: @bkuhn also I take my wins where I can find them.
@bkuhn also I take my wins where I can find them.
View Articleevan: @bkuhn Yes, I'm talking about tech industry perception. Settling ("we...
@bkuhn Yes, I'm talking about tech industry perception. Settling ("we won't enforce GPL if you drop this patent thing") might be bad, too.
View Articlex1101: @bkuhn @evan You can leave the might be out of that. If you're not...
@bkuhn @evan You can leave the might be out of that. If you're not going to enforce the #GPL, use a #BSD license
View Articlebkuhn: @x1101, actually, the various #BSD licenses has compliance...
@x1101, actually, the various #BSD licenses has compliance requirements too that are oft-violated & rarely enforced.
View Articlex1101: @bkuhn ah, a common mistake then. I guess #CC0 would be all you could...
@bkuhn ah, a common mistake then. I guess #CC0 would be all you could do if you didn't want to enforce
View Articlejbuck: Why should GPL compliance be paramount? What if Red Hat could trade...
Why should GPL compliance be paramount? What if Red Hat could trade GPL forgiveness for a patent license for all free software?
View Articlejbuck: Sorry, above msg was a reply to bkuhn's post. GPL is only a mechanism,...
Sorry, above msg was a reply to bkuhn's post. GPL is only a mechanism, not an end in itself.
View Articlebkuhn: @jbuck, Free #swpats license traded for !GPL compliance I considered...
@jbuck, Free #swpats license traded for !GPL compliance I considered day counterclaim announced (@fontana can confirm). But details matter.
View Articlebkuhn: I agree w/ that quote, but not sufficient to yield a specific...
I agree w/ that quote, but not sufficient to yield a specific conclusion here. Letting #TwinPeaks violate forever would give too much away.
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